tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post8436482709465130036..comments2023-08-14T11:44:27.299-04:00Comments on Jeremiah's<br> Vanishing New York: That Fancy CoffeeJeremiah Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-61811880467512185302013-02-12T20:57:17.844-05:002013-02-12T20:57:17.844-05:00I've found the solution to this coffee dilemma...I've found the solution to this coffee dilemma and thy name be Sudafed. While recently enduring the ubiquitous cold/flu, a friend hipped me to the pill that clears up nasal drip and puts a pep in your step. Its secret? Pseudoephedrine - a speed-like substance used in the manufacture of methedrine, which is why one is required to sign for Sudafed so that the DEA knows if you're buying 103 boxes at a time to take back to your meth lab. Spill the coffee and take Sudafed! Your sinuses will thank you and no more muss and fuss about that pesky coffee bean harvested on the backs of underpaid laborers in Third World countries so that overpaid First Worlders can glug that sludge.<br /><br />This is not a paid commercial announcement. All views are those of the poster and not Jeremiah's Vanishing New York or McNeil Consumer Healthcare, makers of Sudafed. Michael Simmonshttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-simmons/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-81946437896577070072013-02-12T12:47:23.170-05:002013-02-12T12:47:23.170-05:00It must be a genetic deficiency but I can drink ve...It must be a genetic deficiency but I can drink very nearly any kind of coffee (OK - not the instant stuff) and it all tastes good to me. Because of this, my only objection to "artisinal, hand crafted, blah blah coffee" is the price. There's no point in paying $2 for a "tall" (read "small") when the $1 cup tastes just the same. My only exception is when I'll pay extra to get the WIFI.<br /><br />An don't dump on Jeremiah! His job is to report - so you can decide, not complain.Dave - Everywherenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-85660303854858711082013-02-08T21:22:08.552-05:002013-02-08T21:22:08.552-05:00sixty two comments. only jeremiah can create that ...sixty two comments. only jeremiah can create that in a new york minute.lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-18791826720562786972013-02-08T20:07:03.313-05:002013-02-08T20:07:03.313-05:00"The coffee was terrible. Bitter and muddy. N..."The coffee was terrible. Bitter and muddy. No amount of milk and sugar could make it drinkable. "<br /><br />Perhaps the author doesn't really like coffee as much as they like a hot caffeinated beverage with milk and sugar, as is the case with many people who like "coffee". <br /><br />It's like people who like chocolate, but don't like dark chocolate because it's too bitter. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-30890053763298008512013-02-08T17:36:52.220-05:002013-02-08T17:36:52.220-05:00Sorry, this working class Joe doesn't want his...Sorry, this working class Joe doesn't want his coffee when he first wakes up several hours before the crack of dawn. Thankfully I can also afford to splurge the extra dollar for a fresh strong cup, whether it be at Starbucks or at one of the local trendy joints. I prefer the local places, but unfortunately many don't open until 7 AM, and Starbucks is open at 5:30 or 6. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-67699418693264670462013-02-08T17:08:38.892-05:002013-02-08T17:08:38.892-05:00i make my own coffee 99.9% of the time, as i usual...i make my own coffee 99.9% of the time, as i usually dont drink past the morning. & i make the best cup of coffee it's custom for me. but, once in a great while i will have it outside. the pantry as a nice little place i am glad people agree. starbucks is only OK @ an airport. as the other stands are gross, i dont sit in airport restaurants. you can sometimes hide the starbucks burnt effect by ordering a "flavor". most coffee anywhere (5 star restuarant to corner deli) tastes bad if it sits in a metal pot. you kind of have to get there when they first make it, AND it has to be good quality coffee. good luck w/that one. this is a really popular post!lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-52436076680802037922013-02-08T14:48:39.717-05:002013-02-08T14:48:39.717-05:00After my last drip maker died and I bought a new o...After my last drip maker died and I bought a new one that reeked and tasted like plastic, I switched to a French press for a while. Then I discovered pour over brewing, basically drip coffee that you make by hand. When done right, it makes a superior cup of coffee, at home. <br /><br />I'm sure many people don't know how most of the corner carts brew their coffee. They use fewer grinds, brew the coffee, and pour the brewed coffee through the grinds again a couple of times. Sorry, I'll take starbucks or the bean over that any day. <br /><br />It may be fancy, and the hipsters working their kind of give me douche chills, but Joe the Art of Coffee on E. 13 st bet 5th and University Pl makes an excellent brew. Open Pantry is pretty good also, I used to stop in there years ago. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-15989381867278981742013-02-08T01:23:34.067-05:002013-02-08T01:23:34.067-05:00while i like good coffee, it doesn't have to b...while i like good coffee, it doesn't have to be fancy. yes, porto rico has always been here and was / is genuinely artisanal in the original sense of the word. they have the best, and cheapest. i hear folks on bustelo and i've tried it but it just doesn't taste good.<br /><br />what i really don't understand tho, is why can't people just make their own coffee? sure we have those times where you are in between places but when you wake up can't you just wake up a tad earlier and make your own? what's the big problem? i know, time, but still. i mean how hard is it to learn to buy regular good beans from porto rico, you can just have a basic grinder, nothing fancy, and any basic coffee maker, and viola! you have your own coffee in the privacy of your residence and make your own light and sweet. i grew up working class/lower working class in a dirt road poor area and sometimes when the comments get going on these topics it feels like what is sadly one of those usually unjustified nyc stereotypes (i say this saying that i moved away from the small tow with barely any resources to survive by tooth and nail here, probably the last of the mohicans of this type, as patti smith says you really can't do it anymore).... and so i digress, in a coffee post about new yorkers saying all this when to the truly working class you just make your own, see what i'm sayin'? make it in the morning. if you are stuck somewhere, go to Porto Rico. there's nothing else justified if you want the "good" coffee. i've tried moishes, gem spa, and all the delis, but nothing is really good good. <br /><br />and that's my digression on coffee, entitlement, class and well, digression. sigh. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-28588768142051956002013-02-07T18:58:33.136-05:002013-02-07T18:58:33.136-05:00Ehhh-- coffee is coffee; the main thing is, does i...Ehhh-- coffee is coffee; the main thing is, does it keep you awake? Everything else is just commentary, as Rabbi Hillel said about the Law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-81321515803199746472013-02-07T17:42:09.181-05:002013-02-07T17:42:09.181-05:00Point of this post is that if a food product, whet...Point of this post is that if a food product, whether it's coffee or whatever, is labeled fancy and is overpriced, regardless if it sucks tepid ass,in today's NYC, Bloomberg kiddies will line-up for it. If you artinalize it, sheeple will come.good to the last dropnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-79674801308403343932013-02-07T16:33:58.467-05:002013-02-07T16:33:58.467-05:00I get free coffee at work so I never have to buy a...I get free coffee at work so I never have to buy a cup. I get PR or Fairway beans for the weekends.. <br /><br />but I grew up on Ferry Coffee from the deli in St George. The used to have a extra cart for the AM rush by the waiting room doors and boom boom they would bang out the cups. <br /><br />regular tasted fine to me! although at some point they started putting sugar in regular.. where as before it only refered to the color.Joe Blownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-3040750284339175272013-02-07T13:56:35.485-05:002013-02-07T13:56:35.485-05:00Foodies get angry when you make fun of their food ...Foodies get angry when you make fun of their food because they're using food as a social status marker, and they're really insecure about their social status. I think it's that simple.<br /><br />Do you get angry when people criticize books you like? I enjoy a good argument about a book.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-66606489272610043792013-02-07T09:57:25.878-05:002013-02-07T09:57:25.878-05:00Drip coffee is pretty hopeless; there's no suc...Drip coffee is pretty hopeless; there's no such thing as fancy drip coffee. Assuming you are talking about Abraco, their espresso drinks are generally good, but nothing is worth waiting in the line they get on weekends and busy days. I only go there if I happen to be walking by, don't see a line, and want espresso.Treenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-33174657305144975192013-02-06T20:59:08.458-05:002013-02-06T20:59:08.458-05:00thanks for having my back. i am seriously curious ...thanks for having my back. i am seriously curious about what happens for foodies when their favorite food and/or drink, and the behaviors surrounding it, are criticized. i think there's something about food/drink that foodies are fiercely protective about, and also take deeply personally. it might be like the way i feel about books, i don't know. i don't quite get it.Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-8899665614581440892013-02-06T20:19:17.433-05:002013-02-06T20:19:17.433-05:001) yes pat, it is the store on 2nd/e.12th. but the...1) yes pat, it is the store on 2nd/e.12th. but they have all kinds of plain coffees too. & the people woho worked there were very sweet. the mexican man would even deliver water for me. yes they are pricey, i would do my regular shopping @ grististes on 14th st. 2) anon 1:29, jeremiah writes about all kinds of things. sometimes the absurdness of people. he is like a social scientist. ive watched people line up for the most stupid things too. know what im thinking? "why didnt I THINK of THIS" ??? theres a great vid on youtube, jackie mason gives his take on starbucks! hilarious, & so true. then there is another vid from micheal savage, seems the coffee trend brings out the sheeple. considering there are 49 comments here, i have concluded: a good cup of coffee is hard to find.lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-91521845271181906902013-02-06T19:47:51.819-05:002013-02-06T19:47:51.819-05:00I'm with Jeremiah.
One of the scams of The Tw...I'm with Jeremiah.<br /><br />One of the scams of The Twenty-Worst Century is to reinvent the wheel and then quintuple the price.<br /><br />If I want an intense sensory experience I'll run headfirst into a wall. Or get drunk.<br /><br />Little Earthquake admonished Jeremiah for "hating on the choice of others." HATING??? The Westboro Church commits "hating." (I'm hating "hating on" -- it's an abused phrase.) Jeremiah & co. are bristling at the habits of trendy suckers who've turned New York City into an overpriced paradise for their pretentious conformism.<br /><br />As for the Anon. who accuses Jeremiah and those who agree with him of being "fucking laughingstocks." (To who -- you? An alleged human named Anonymous?) The clamor for overpriced coffee by the overpaid is "symbolic shit" because it symbolizes the screwing you referenced of low-wage workers and middle-class families.<br /><br />Furthermore, I support Jeremiah Moss for NYC Culture Minister. Let's get the petitions rolling.<br /><br />Michael Simmonshttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-simmons/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-51224130327024499112013-02-06T18:20:54.717-05:002013-02-06T18:20:54.717-05:00I've worked at a "fancy" (or as we c...I've worked at a "fancy" (or as we called it, specialty) coffee shop for 6 months and there are reasons why specialty coffee is more expensive. Whether everyone needs to drink specialty coffee every day is something that can be debated (there is a time for $2 Chuck and a time vintage wines), but many specialty coffee shops in this town are not throwing fancy marketing on crappy beans. There is a lot of time, skill, and effort spent on finding and tasting beans, roasting consistently, and developing and tasting constantly when brewing or pulling espresso drinks.<br /><br />Again, the amount of specialty coffee you want to consume is up to you, but specialty coffee has some real skill and passionate people behind it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-48437440486357045042013-02-06T15:16:47.994-05:002013-02-06T15:16:47.994-05:00The little coffee store on 2nd & 12th, that is...The little coffee store on 2nd & 12th, that is the Open Pantry, isn't it? I get the complaint about Black Truffle flavor coffee. "These people" have to put truffle flavor in everything, chocolate, mac & cheese, hamburgers, they cannot leave well enough alone and have to goose it up to raise the price and make it affected and precious and that is what so many of us object to. I grew up with Chock Full O' Nuts, both at home and in the many locations of that chain. When I was a teenager I went to the Colombian Coffee booth at the 1964 World's Fair and tasted Colombian coffee for the first time. It was a revelation, the first thing I noticed was I did not have to put sugar in it to make it taste good. As for Russ & Daughters, I hate long lines and don't know if I would make the sacrifice for them, but I have had their Nova Scotia on a bagel and LOVE it to pieces. One thing they taught me is I don't have to squeeze a slice of lemon on my smoked fish, which I used to do. They said we don't do that and they are right. It is an ongoing learning process. Good luck to all in your quest for the perfect balance of quality and affordability. Patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-57381632452043078182013-02-06T13:53:43.721-05:002013-02-06T13:53:43.721-05:00Fair enough, Anon 11 a.m.Fair enough, Anon 11 a.m.BabyDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04751432569519540728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-7649479516159637082013-02-06T11:00:20.382-05:002013-02-06T11:00:20.382-05:00BabyDave,
The Russ and Daughters comment was clea...BabyDave,<br /><br />The Russ and Daughters comment was clearly an analogy. R&D puts a lot of love into their product, and the place packs out on a Sunday morning as a result. Some people have tried it before and know that it's worth the time and money compared to the industrial product at Key Foods. Some of the people in line want to know if it's worth the hype. They're not easily deluded sheeple, or whatever the point of the post was.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-25787115380763899392013-02-06T10:42:19.517-05:002013-02-06T10:42:19.517-05:00Thanks for your takedown of Mast. I received half ...Thanks for your takedown of Mast. I received half a dozen of them as Christmas presents - the majority wound up being melted down and doctored to make some very expensive hot chocolate, but one - Black Truffle flavor - was one of the vilest things I have ever tastede, and wound up gracing a trash can somewhere. Ugh. As for coffee, go the the little coffee store on 2nd Ave. and 12th St., buy something from their amazing selection, have it ground, take it home and make yourself a great cup. Altho for takeout coffee I still miss the little old Puerto Rican bakery that used to be on the southwest corner of 8th and C, THE best Spanish coffee ever. Ever.Gojiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-28435427831691701242013-02-06T09:22:28.625-05:002013-02-06T09:22:28.625-05:00This is, hands down, the weirdest reaction I'v...This is, hands down, the weirdest reaction I've ever seen to a Jeremiah post. And there have been some pret-ty weird reactions.JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09876016557456927299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-55426458915209223582013-02-06T09:04:24.404-05:002013-02-06T09:04:24.404-05:00Big Tsunami -
I don't hate Jeremiah or his b...Big Tsunami - <br /><br />I don't hate Jeremiah or his blog. I come here to read posts because I find them interesting and educational even when I don't agree with their opinions. I'm just sharing the notion that I don't worry about other people's choices - I do what I want because it makes me happy. So you're right that I oughtn't worry about someone's choice to complain about the masses and THEIR choices. If people enjoy that more power to 'em. <br /><br />You've learned something about happiness today! Little Earthquakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357902966348718076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-52864337446397979762013-02-06T07:37:11.129-05:002013-02-06T07:37:11.129-05:00so, really, what is it about "fancy coffee&qu...so, really, what is it about "fancy coffee" that gets everybody so heated? the response to this post seems a bit outsized. as DrBop said, it hit a nerve. a coffee nerve?Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-8967314134262132072013-02-06T02:44:15.337-05:002013-02-06T02:44:15.337-05:00Love it. Coffee (like chocolate) has been some kin...Love it. Coffee (like chocolate) has been some kind of barometer of civilization since Europeans "discovered" both. After more than 40 years of coffee-drinking (and still more years of chocolate eating and drinking), I wouldn't downplay changes in what the stomach can take as the years go on....<br /><br />A few milestones for me. Italian coffee in NYC in my earliest years of drinking the stuff (teens), having observed my father drinking both coffee at home (another matter, though good, in its way, too) and the real stuff, in the proper Italian way.<br /><br />Going to the upper midwest and discovering that Nords have coffee rather than blood in their veins. Who knew? Good, strong, wonderful coffee. Not NY Italian, but of the same ilk.<br /><br />Years later, the abomination of Starbucks. So, some Washington Nords think that the Italians or NYC knew nothing about coffee? (A younger Seattle friend who was Starbucks proud, this in the early 1990's, dear as she is to me, really didn't know that NYC had heard of espresso before Starbucks -- hell, way before I was born.)<br /><br />All that said, for a while I ordered my coffee from Peet's in SF, before it went national (to survive at all, I assume). <br /><br />To finish this off: as I get older but still continue to need LOTS of coffee, I have found that milder is better, for me. The trick is (and I think of truly fine cooking: simple but exquisitely good), well, to keep it simple but good. "Milder" as in properly, freshly seasoned, rather than over-seasoned. (Again, Italians are the masters here.) mchnoreply@blogger.com