tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post7404137973861600499..comments2023-08-14T11:44:27.299-04:00Comments on Jeremiah's<br> Vanishing New York: Schwartz On SecondJeremiah Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-87692303807577516622008-08-13T13:54:00.000-04:002008-08-13T13:54:00.000-04:00This is too much. Even if my own father's memoria...This is too much. Even if my own father's memorial service hadn't been held here (it was). Just seems sooo sacreligious. Like condos in former houses of worship. Seems like their should be a city ordinance forbidding such conversions. Or say, a CONSCIENCE of those involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-53518395937929246872008-08-13T09:30:00.000-04:002008-08-13T09:30:00.000-04:00Yeah, sorry I still feel like a long time NYer and...Yeah, sorry I still feel like a long time NYer and supporter of EV culture selling out to the corporate monolith hurts even more than some scumbag absentee landlord or something like that. I think then fact that you guys know and like this guy are letting it cloud your judgement on this. Oh and also Karate I realize that the market determines "market value", but ultimately the landlord determines what his rent will be. I thought my point was pretty obvious on that one.Larvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14718862644913152012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-61620196396372099972008-08-12T23:11:00.000-04:002008-08-12T23:11:00.000-04:00Nicely put!Nicely put!JamesChanceOfficialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517788409617221144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-64970185540475069832008-08-12T22:56:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:56:00.000-04:00david, i'm angry about the duane reade, too. and i...david, i'm angry about the duane reade, too. and i don't disagree with you. <BR/><BR/>for me, the added complication here is that it's not the simple situation of a wealthy landlord with many properties evicting people and pushing out businesses. could the schwartz family have found a tenant that would be better for the neighborhood? maybe. i don't know. i know i don't envy andy's position.<BR/><BR/>maybe we're all trapped by market forces, one way or another.Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-1678500465058211722008-08-12T17:41:00.000-04:002008-08-12T17:41:00.000-04:00Jeremiah, my heart stopped when I saw your post on...Jeremiah, my heart stopped when I saw your post on Curbed about the Essex Card Shop. Usually, when you run a story about a place like that it's to chronicle its final days. Three cheers! I've been going there for 26 years; am so glad that they're expanding, not closing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-44022083621508794342008-08-12T17:35:00.000-04:002008-08-12T17:35:00.000-04:00I'm not going to get into an argument here but the...I'm not going to get into an argument here but the landlord certainly doesn't make up the "market value" for the rent on a space. Its what the market will bear - the average going rate per square foot in a given neighborhood. Please read more closely.<BR/><BR/>As for this fear of chain stores - there have always been chain stores in NY. Its all of the so called luxury high rises, and their marketing, that get to me. This frathouse takeover of the EV just kills me.<BR/><BR/>NY ceased being cool years ago. I agree with L'Emmerdeur that their might be a reversal in place already economically.JamesChanceOfficialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517788409617221144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-90551041824347795242008-08-12T16:34:00.000-04:002008-08-12T16:34:00.000-04:00"That said, I wonder what the market value of..."That said, I wonder what the market value of the monthly rent is on the space? I doubt there are many neighborhood mom & pop businesses that could afford it these days. But I'm just guessing."<BR/><BR/>Well, that would be up to the landlord right? Meaning it would be up to Andy. The only "factors" mentioned really are the odd configuration of the space. It's just kind of funny that there is so much rage directed towards the landlords,the chains,etc on this blog but it's supposed to a different story in this case because...why? He could have rented it out to a mom and pop for less money but chose not to. Isn't that exactly what we rail against here? People taking the buck vs. doing the right thing by their city and community? You can say that individuals should not be blamed and that it is a bigger problem. But the reality is that the choices that each individual makes, matter. One by one is how it happens. Andy & his family decided what they decided.Larvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14718862644913152012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-35786773240518293132008-08-12T16:32:00.000-04:002008-08-12T16:32:00.000-04:00Yeah, right, like those who are branding him a sel...Yeah, right, like those who are branding him a sell-out wouldn't have done exactly the same thing if they were in his shoes.<BR/><BR/>Regardless, we should all be hoping the chain store infection spreads further and faster, because it needs to reach that moment of catalysis after which New York will finally cease being cool, and the pendulum can finally start swinging the other way...<BR/><BR/>... although the economic groundwork for this reversal is already in place.L'Emmerdeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03004040303058104490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-31077036378748362482008-08-12T16:17:00.000-04:002008-08-12T16:17:00.000-04:00I didn't say anything about NY Rocker or even ...I didn't say anything about NY Rocker or even him being cool. Although he is.<BR/><BR/>What the story says is that there were many factors in the decision they finally had to make regarding the property. Speaking for myself, I can't begin to imagine all of the factors that must come into play when having to deal with a property like this in a city like this.<BR/><BR/>And I would venture that this is probably the only property the family owns in NY so its not like they're evil landowning money hogs selling out the neighborhood, and grabbing every buck they can - neighborhood (the East Village or anywhere) be damned. <BR/><BR/>Comments like calling him a sellout or a Yunnie are just simplistic or childish at best. <BR/><BR/>That said, I wonder what the market value of the monthly rent is on the space? I doubt there are many neighborhood mom & pop businesses that could afford it these days. But I'm just guessing. <BR/><BR/>Believe me, I'd like to see something else going on than what is currently happening. But when you break it down to an individual, or a family making a choice (perhaps for its own survival), I can understand their decision. And I won't hold the high rises on Ludlow Street or the Bowery against them.JamesChanceOfficialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517788409617221144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-90213171986299067462008-08-12T16:03:00.000-04:002008-08-12T16:03:00.000-04:00Karate - Am I missing something? Whether he was t...Karate - Am I missing something? Whether he was the editor of NY Rocker, or is a "cool guy" or not, his neighborhood and city are under siege and instead of being part of the solution he decided to be part of the problem. Full stop.Larvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14718862644913152012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-75042572062101525372008-08-12T14:06:00.000-04:002008-08-12T14:06:00.000-04:00I feel like such an old-timer reading about everyt...I feel like such an old-timer reading about everything that's happening to this block (and I only lived there from 2003-2005!). From my bedroom window across the street I saw the 2nd Ave Deli close, and then my roommates & I were priced out as well (30% rent increase, anyone?). I really fell in love with the East Village during my short stint there and stuff like this just makes me sad.Krikrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00487044793424535161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-23857321147416655312008-08-12T12:58:00.000-04:002008-08-12T12:58:00.000-04:00thanks karate. andy is very cool--and clearly has ...thanks karate. andy is very cool--and clearly has many great stories to tell.<BR/><BR/>doing this story made me realize how, sometimes, we don't have the easy target of a greedy landlord villain. in this case, we've got a long-time LES family, with several members, many of them elderly. maybe they need the money.<BR/><BR/>what's upsetting is that, one of the few ways available to get financial support is to rent to the duane reades of the world.Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-40129636478484718522008-08-12T12:41:00.000-04:002008-08-12T12:41:00.000-04:00Great post Jeremiah...Andy is a friend of mine, an...Great post Jeremiah...Andy is a friend of mine, and an amazing source of history - both musical and NYC-wise. <BR/><BR/>For you knuckleheads who jump to conclusions and call him a sell out, and only interested in money, you obviously haven't read the story closely. Or know Andy. You are incorrect, full stop.JamesChanceOfficialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517788409617221144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-23067076264780100932008-08-12T12:27:00.000-04:002008-08-12T12:27:00.000-04:00death by a thousand chains...ive worked in more th...death by a thousand chains...<BR/><BR/>ive worked in more than a few, and chain store jobs are living death. you hate the job, hate the customers. flourescent bulb sterile misery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-1653826538697729042008-08-12T10:07:00.000-04:002008-08-12T10:07:00.000-04:00Wow! And to think that the staff at Duane Reade us...Wow! And to think that the staff at Duane Reade usually are so corpse like anyways. So Kismet. <BR/><BR/>I already see people wondering what are the names on the stones where 2nd Ave. Deli was.<BR/><BR/>People think it has something to do with the bank. Oh Vey!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-10869701383784181962008-08-12T10:00:00.000-04:002008-08-12T10:00:00.000-04:00Thanks for pointing out the connection to THE NEW ...Thanks for pointing out the connection to THE NEW YORK ROCKER, a great newspaper. I had no idea! This makes me sad, but I gotta give props for Andy for his past life as a publisher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-50169846232022406762008-08-12T09:35:00.000-04:002008-08-12T09:35:00.000-04:00He sold out. Plain and simple.He sold out. Plain and simple.Larvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14718862644913152012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-17261915400921602882008-08-12T09:03:00.000-04:002008-08-12T09:03:00.000-04:00No surprise here. Yunnies worship only themselves...No surprise here. Yunnies worship only themselves, money and drugs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-48695877312244849552008-08-12T08:32:00.000-04:002008-08-12T08:32:00.000-04:00I'm just....stunned.I'm just....stunned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-30935942874985746822008-08-12T08:24:00.000-04:002008-08-12T08:24:00.000-04:00This is bloody ridiculous. The destruction of the ...This is bloody ridiculous. The destruction of the neighborhood is taking on farcical proportions. We'll be 95% banks, Duane Reades and fro-yos by next summer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com