tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post5182725986702614314..comments2023-08-14T11:44:27.299-04:00Comments on Jeremiah's<br> Vanishing New York: Stroller SportsJeremiah Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-8834018146365990172011-05-10T17:54:20.604-04:002011-05-10T17:54:20.604-04:00#1) the new york observer had a short article abou...#1) the new york observer had a short article about this exact subject: the sing song tone of the voice, every statement ends w/a question mark. they said it was from TV/films. copy cats. its weird, is this the first time in history that people affect speech patterns that are not from their parents or ethnic group? what was interesting was that my friend & i were commenting on this the day before the article appeared. my friend said that the younger men today sounded like they were gay. maybe this is a job for the 'grumbler'??? this needs a separate post aside from strollers.lsRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-51421400861512412752008-07-02T10:59:00.000-04:002008-07-02T10:59:00.000-04:00MTV, nickelodeon, Vh1we are a generation raised by...MTV, nickelodeon, Vh1<BR/><BR/>we are a generation raised by tv and our speech pattern mimics that coached "confessional" tone you hear on any reality tv showAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-88019628288492455052008-07-02T05:43:00.000-04:002008-07-02T05:43:00.000-04:00Female New Yorkers don't naturally talk in a winey...Female New Yorkers don't naturally talk in a winey baby voice; whoever told you that was an idiot. In fact females from any location don't naturally speak like that, simply because the up-talk baby voice isn't a regional accent.<BR/>The yunnie female comes with a very peculiar speech pattern. It's not an aspect of any specific "type" of yunnie, but rather a universal trait among them. Basically, it's a combination of valley-girl speak (“oh my god, I’m like, so totally, like...”), an “uptalk” (that is, interrogative) delivery, and a whiny baby-voice. From listening to them, I’ve also found that they have trouble pronouncing certain words (usually words with the schwa vowel sound): e.g. “yeah” becomes “yah”, “thank you” sounds like “think-you”, “all right” is “arr-ate”, etc. The combination of all these traits, though apparently unconscious, is a very effective irritation. <BR/>How they all grew up speaking with the same accent is something I’ve wondered about a great deal. After all, yunnies who grew up in New Jersey, California, Alabama, Minnesota–literally every state–all somehow ended up in adulthood (or quasi-adulthood) sharing the same accent. Why? It isn’t a regional or linguistic accent. This has always bothered me, especially since one very rarely heard unabashed baby-voiced valley-girl speak anywhere before 2001 or so (except as a joke), but now it seems to be universal amongst the upper-middle classes and above. The best reason I could ever conjecture was that, since they also seem to share the same values and tastes, something must have happened in America during the 80's and 90's that made growing up in an affluent suburb such a communal experience that the kids who passed through it grew up to be literally indistinguishable. I guess it’s a class-accent, since that appears to be it’s only basis. <BR/><BR/>The yunnie male also speaks in valley-girl slang (though I suppose one could call it “surfer-dude” in his case) and delivers all his statements in interrogative form, but he does so in a low, inflection-less monotone (which is also universal). It is, however, unacceptable for the male yunnie to constantly giggle maniacally or cry hysterically, but we all knew that already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-55032942523344751362008-06-25T18:05:00.000-04:002008-06-25T18:05:00.000-04:00I am an original New Yorker and I have been mocked...I am an original New Yorker and I have been mocked with a winey voice--I do not speak like that--speech therapists confirm--sooo why do people still try to say original new yorkers(female) speak like this when I believe it is a made up way of talking to look better than they are--my aunt did this--pretended to be a Philadelphian and my cousin too--ugly douches-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-60684062639637800682008-06-24T20:16:00.000-04:002008-06-24T20:16:00.000-04:00Ugh, babies in bars. Another unsavory proxy effect...Ugh, babies in bars. Another unsavory proxy effect of Bloomberg's smoking ban. This city really has turned into Disneyland. It pains my soul to see this city transformed into a pathetic, sanitized amusement park for rich mommies and their spoiled broods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-7483226791541082622008-06-24T18:58:00.000-04:002008-06-24T18:58:00.000-04:00Yeah, the nasal, helium voice is not only bizarre,...Yeah, the nasal, helium voice is not only bizarre, but really grating. Grown women (well, sort of) deliberately speaking like little girls. Wait, even little girls sound more mature than they do and have more pleasant voices, so what's up with this? If you watch movies from the 30s, 40s, and even 1950s, most females had normal speaking voices. I attended a lecture years ago by a nutritionist who said that the condition of the internal organs (maybe the brain, too) is reflected by the quality of one's voice. If that's so, these unbearable squeaky, nasal voices is another dismal sign, like the disappearance of the bees, that the human species is in deep shit! Hopefully, it's just the Yunnies!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-45453443281373477292008-06-24T17:22:00.000-04:002008-06-24T17:22:00.000-04:00i agree, alex, not everyone with a stroller is a j...i agree, alex, not everyone with a stroller is a jackass. sadly, the non-squeaky wheels don't get much grease. keep up the good parenting work--someone's got to do it!Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-70054532264749406362008-06-24T17:02:00.000-04:002008-06-24T17:02:00.000-04:00Not for nothin', JM, but I touched on that here:ht...Not for nothin', JM, but I touched on that here:<BR/><BR/>http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/the_dad_zone/index.html<BR/><BR/>Not everyone with a stroller is a jackass.<BR/><BR/>But know this: PEOPLE PROCREATE! STROLLERS AREN'T GOING AWAY. MAKE YOUR PEACE WITH THEM.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the excellent work as always, JM.<BR/>Cheers,<BR/>Alex in NYCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-78723500557535530142008-06-24T16:04:00.000-04:002008-06-24T16:04:00.000-04:00I've mentioned it before in your generation O post...I've mentioned it before in your <A HREF="http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2008/04/generation-o.html" REL="nofollow">generation O</A> post, that there's a particular "type" of yunnies that irritates me more because of that nasal voice, which are more prominent to them. I'm not even sure if they're doing that voice consciously or unconsciously to make them feel or be more like a white yunnie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-52318337660723552282008-06-24T15:32:00.000-04:002008-06-24T15:32:00.000-04:00thank you, stuytown, for mentioning the nasal voic...thank you, stuytown, for mentioning the nasal voice! i cannot stand that voice. where did it come from? are there any linguists studying it? why do so many young women talk that way? it's like uptalk in the 80s.Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-77192258927266862712008-06-24T14:45:00.000-04:002008-06-24T14:45:00.000-04:00In around 20 years, that little shit is going to b...In around 20 years, that little shit is going to be scrubbing somebody's toilet in Shanghai.L'Emmerdeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03004040303058104490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-48058486224286616732008-06-24T13:21:00.000-04:002008-06-24T13:21:00.000-04:00Love your blog! I'll tell you what's worse....if ...Love your blog! I'll tell you what's worse....if the Yunnie in that photo was also wearing heel-smacking, rubber flip-flops and was speaking loudly into her cell phone in one of those horrible squeaky, nasal voices. Can somebody please tell me why so many female Yunnies have voices like Minnie Mouse on helium?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-54147323877524480882008-06-24T12:31:00.000-04:002008-06-24T12:31:00.000-04:00to park slopper and sssslope...The third world cou...to park slopper and sssslope...<BR/><BR/>The third world countries are still around -- they're at the UPE. They can still afford to live in the city hence they can afford to have nannies. The PS moms obviously cannot afford a nanny nor to live in the city, that's why they're so bitter and frustrated that they take out their rage by using the strollers, much like a driver who has road rage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-21899942772396341632008-06-24T10:21:00.000-04:002008-06-24T10:21:00.000-04:00Trinidadian nannies used to care for these childre...Trinidadian nannies used to care for these children of the working elite--they corrected them when they kicked and were uncharming--what happened to them??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-10410826664060013472008-06-24T09:42:00.000-04:002008-06-24T09:42:00.000-04:00Other thoughts:"Your kid's not special.""You're pr...Other thoughts:<BR/>"Your kid's not special."<BR/>"You're pregnant? So what."<BR/>"You only get to replace yourself. That's it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-49257170020215138572008-06-24T09:34:00.000-04:002008-06-24T09:34:00.000-04:00You should start selling your own t-shirts (just m...You should start selling your own t-shirts (just make sure they're available in pink and red Lacoste shirts) with anti-yunnie messages, similar to the anti-stroller mom mafia shirts. This should at least give you some other income and no longer have to <I>"slave over a hot blog every day, day in and day out"</I> and you don't have to consider the evils of ads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-82708868903117948792008-06-24T09:31:00.000-04:002008-06-24T09:31:00.000-04:00stroller moms and park slope--what happened to all...stroller moms and park slope--what happened to all the third world nannies of yesteryear--moms worked--nannies from Trinidad etc. the nannies were more polite than the moms--Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com