tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post8579481713681046273..comments2023-08-14T11:44:27.299-04:00Comments on Jeremiah's<br> Vanishing New York: 14th & 3rdJeremiah Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-39215301089855286302019-10-19T22:22:16.232-04:002019-10-19T22:22:16.232-04:00I lived across Third Avenue from Variety and Disco...I lived across Third Avenue from Variety and Disco Donut briefly in 1981—in the white building that at the time had a marquee which read "The Contempora" in script—yes, I remember The Dugout tavern with its sign: "Frozen Mugs." <br /><br />14th street was awesome and scary; does anyone remember the butcher shop on 14th street with the neon animation of a man chasing a pig with a knife in his hand; only his arm moved. I believe it was on 14th between 1st and 2nd. I bought a bra mannequin for a dollar at a lingerie store on 14th when they were going out of business; it had "Exquisite Form" in script across the upper chest.Scuba Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10326884503725331349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-77452588820723764852019-04-26T19:34:25.959-04:002019-04-26T19:34:25.959-04:00I was a gay habitue of the Variety during the '...I was a gay habitue of the Variety during the '70s and '80s. Moved to NYC from Midwest in '68. The city was a good fit for me, and I felt at home and comfortable from the moment I arrived. Had a wonderful life there, working in a field I loved and living in the East Village (drastically different then; I often mourn the passing of that culture). But I understand the disdain that "Anonymous" feels toward the "new people" of the EV and NYC in general. Very conformist, not remotely inquisitive, media-brainwashed, not adventurous, and just plain dull; nothing unique about them - they could be from Oshkosh - but, by god, they know it all! Sorry, but it's true. So I moved to the mountains!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14448043712060078018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-61562377052404355092018-03-21T14:48:20.524-04:002018-03-21T14:48:20.524-04:00I was raised in the lower East Side
And in my yout...I was raised in the lower East Side<br />And in my youth walked all around those beautiful old red brick buildings...it always felt right in my heart and soul....I cant even<br />Continue to write without shedding a tear ..I'm sad it is<br />Changed to nothing but cold steel..<br />Cold steel and more cold steel same look different blocks..go ahead ask these<br />New wave of people...hey remember<br />Waffles and ice cream on 14th Street the 5 and Dime..or the roller derby at the armory..how bout an orange Julius...<br />On a hot summer day.....they have no clue...Orchard Street Shopping on Saturdays near Our Famous Delancey Street..we would walk all the way to 14th Street via the East River Drive Park.. they look at you like you are an alien species just landed and invading there territory..your nostalgia of these precious, and crazy fun and friendly hang outs made me cry 😿...your nostalgia hurt my heart and soul...because now we can only hold them as precious jewels in <br />Our memories.....I loved this article<br />As well as the pictures Thank You....<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244134377197145948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-15017047247189716572014-11-30T10:04:06.305-05:002014-11-30T10:04:06.305-05:00The DUG OUT- some comments- I was in a fraternity ...The DUG OUT- some comments- I was in a fraternity in SUCO Oneonta (ITK); at some point in the mid 80's during a Thanksgiving Eve celebration we got tossed out of McSorleys for singing (God Bless America of all things!). We stumbled into the Dug Out, sang our hearts out, and it became an annual tradition for years; we would chip in and bring in trays of food, which we shred with the occasional homeless person that wandered in. We became friends with the bartender (Bob), who loved us (we made sure he got a HUGE tip) and made sure he was working that night. The tradition exists to this day at various venues around the city, but for years it was known as 'Dug Out Night', and I am sure most of the current attendees- who are far younger than I- have no idea how the name came to be!<br /><br /><br />Kevin Shanmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-8703460131741884472014-01-19T02:02:09.945-05:002014-01-19T02:02:09.945-05:00on the corner of 13 st was a bar that changed name...on the corner of 13 st was a bar that changed names numorous times in the 50's and 60' and 70s then came then next on the block came the dugout which was owned by the Damrau family from 1918 till 1976 then a alley way that was boarded up then one of the first if not the first SALVATION ARMY CHURCH and there band would stand out front and play during the 50's and 60's and probley before. then the Variety a couple of stores that changed hands all the time.then on the corner was Sam's pizzeria opened in the 1930's by 4 Greek brothers and was one of the first pizzerias in NY. THE DOUNUT shop came along in 79 or 80 my first home was the third floor at 108 third ave above the Dugout im Robert K Damrau the grandson of Robert Sylvester Damrau who bought the Dugout in 1918 which had been ther since the 1860's my father Kurt Robert Damrau owned the DUGOUT from 1949 till 1974 then was owned by my mother Mary Ethel Damrau till 1976 when she sold to Emil KOVACS the DUGOUT was a working mans bar from 1918 till 1976 as 13 street was the end of what was known as carpenters row until the 1960's as capenters shops lined both sides of the street to 8th st Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-41607205577936839972012-10-27T23:38:41.545-04:002012-10-27T23:38:41.545-04:00Bob was a helluva bartender. Eager to please. Pa...Bob was a helluva bartender. Eager to please. Paul Moore helped Bob quite a lot toward the end. Helluva great guy, too. Paul had a graffiti-covered old potato chip truck, which he used as a moving van, that had dozens of parking violations stacked on the dashboard. <br />(When the cops finally pulled him over and ran the license that was then end of the the truck.) Paul had a hound named Rufus. Saul ran the RSO kiddy-corner across 3rd Avenue. NYU kids found the place and it got crowded. Great Mets bar. Fun night in 86 when they won it all. J. CareyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-24921225967507039682012-09-22T08:08:07.761-04:002012-09-22T08:08:07.761-04:00SF, please email me at jeremoss@yahoo.com.SF, please email me at jeremoss@yahoo.com.Jeremiah Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-77570070626469222022012-09-11T10:38:51.521-04:002012-09-11T10:38:51.521-04:00If anyone cares to read more about Lite Lounge at ...If anyone cares to read more about Lite Lounge at Carmelita's contact me. I rented Carmelita's Reception House at 150 E.14th St., NYC from 1988-c. 1990 with my dear friend Miss A. We founded Lite Lounge together and made parties for our downtown friends with "lite" music like Bacharach, Beatles muzak, and our 45's collections to heighten the crazy sensation of cocktails&dancing, mirrors and christmas lights beneath a whipped cream ceiling. One claim to fame of LL@Carmelita's was that 1000 people on a Monday night could walk through those doors and have a blast. Yes, it was a watering hole for Mr. Forbes but he drank club soda, nothing else. I know the correct answer to bordello rumors, which celebrities came there and how the night became a huge success. Including tidbits like James White came out of his remote/quiet phase to perform there twice and opening night was attended by the Beastie Boys and Alan Vega. It was truly fun for all and came together because of many friends' input and comaraderie. The club received a ton of press and was first covered by WWD, then Paper Magazine which remains a huge support for all things "Downtown"-SFAnonymoushttp://www.facebook.com/stacyfeinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-74921420240407422232011-03-08T18:40:52.152-05:002011-03-08T18:40:52.152-05:00for what ever the 101 reasons, more people move to...for what ever the 101 reasons, more people move to NYC. for school & work. if you dont like these mid western types dont talk to them! dont even try to look @ them- (go to the tea parlour in chinatown, shop when no ones in the store or better yet have your things delieved). & for one million & one reasons the ENTIRE world is becoming the same. the same chain stores etc. that is the fault of the new one world govt & muti national ownership & trading. (new world order). its bigger than you. most people just like to travel (& complain about TSA), arrive, & look @ the malls which are the same as where they live! they are called tourists. no, these chain stores were not built for the mid westerner residents of new york! this is happening all over the world, end of case. for rich for poor for middle class total. thats it: one world goverment called big business corporations. thats it here it is.lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-54808249601588579672009-08-28T15:06:25.965-04:002009-08-28T15:06:25.965-04:00http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnjkim/485267552/
...http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnjkim/485267552/<br /><br /><br />here's the linkAkimbonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-83596304379973279972009-08-28T14:46:48.397-04:002009-08-28T14:46:48.397-04:00I am compelled by everyone's fond memories of ...I am compelled by everyone's fond memories of the Variety Theater to show off a photo I took some years back. I am also a Taxi Driver aficionado and can appreciate all the references made.Akimbonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-30173082446881828742009-08-28T12:10:34.132-04:002009-08-28T12:10:34.132-04:00I remember the Dugout being a few doors off the co...I remember the Dugout being a few doors off the corner, on Third Ave. Akimbo, do you remember all the photos on the walls? Any other details about the space? I was underage there too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-45561897060088801922009-08-28T10:58:32.353-04:002009-08-28T10:58:32.353-04:00the dive bar at the corner was indeed the "Du...the dive bar at the corner was indeed the "Dug Out," echoing its similarity to a dug out on a baseball diamond - the bar was 2 or three steps below sidewalk level and the steps ran the entire width of the bar. I attended Stuyvesant H.S. on E.15th street from 1981-1985(years before it relocated to the north end of Battery Park City). My buddies and I on occasion drank $0.50 drafts served in frosty mugs at the Dug Out. We were barely 16 and the barkeep served us, no questions asked. Different times.Akimbonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-68400639148067297832009-08-24T19:13:19.465-04:002009-08-24T19:13:19.465-04:00I'm looking for information--especially photos...I'm looking for information--especially photos--on the old Dugout bar that was next door to the Variety. Can anyone help? Thank you!!!jenny shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09852840859459992599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-37483746460908973722009-07-20T15:14:44.867-04:002009-07-20T15:14:44.867-04:00It's like the line from The Women of Brewster ...It's like the line from The Women of Brewster Place: "No one cries when a street dies."Icarus' Heirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592141199671274201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-30715096854929964032009-07-17T20:06:34.649-04:002009-07-17T20:06:34.649-04:00Carmelita's Lite Lounge was a happening joint ...Carmelita's Lite Lounge was a happening joint at one time. The one time I was in there I saw Malcolm Forbes standing at the bar.Media gluthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07338948037718606190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-10748633640250212772009-07-17T10:44:18.024-04:002009-07-17T10:44:18.024-04:00"Carmelita's Lite Lounge" was, in fa..."Carmelita's Lite Lounge" was, in fact, a brothel and an after-hours club rolled into one. Palladium after-parties were held there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-1028622650605503452009-07-17T06:12:56.470-04:002009-07-17T06:12:56.470-04:00In the photo with the taxi the Dugout is down a fe...In the photo with the taxi the Dugout is down a few stairs but I'm sure movie crews may have spruced up a bitMykola Dementiukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02267125930152870083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-52440343047812015402009-07-17T00:34:08.696-04:002009-07-17T00:34:08.696-04:00I hate this "I am from here; you are not"...I hate this "I am from here; you are not" talk @ Anonymous 1:26 p.m. New York is New York because it welcomes all people from all places -- it's the light at the end of the tunnel for the kid from the Midwest who won't ever belong anywhere else; it's the land of opportunity for the Hatian immigrant who joins her cousins and works hard to "make it." New York would be nothing if it weren't for smart, talented immigrants -- both from elsewhere in the United States and from overseas.<br /><br />That said, what also makes New York this beacon of hope is because it's different from everywhere else. It's not Omaha. It's not Dallas. It's not Los Angeles. Unfortunately, with changes documented so artfully -- and mournfully -- in this post by Jeremiah, it will soon be just like everywhere else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-20089913596225196952009-07-16T18:31:09.938-04:002009-07-16T18:31:09.938-04:00Nice work JM, I remember getting propositioned by ...Nice work JM, I remember getting propositioned by a street walker for the first time in that general vicinity circa 1983. My brother thought it was very funny, but I was so surprised that I was speechless. It was a long way from the suburbs back then.hntrnychttp://huntergatherernyc.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-22131309913705778192009-07-16T18:30:38.305-04:002009-07-16T18:30:38.305-04:00I think this big blue building was one where a con...I think this big blue building was one where a construction worker fell to his death and landed on a taxi cab. Does that sound familiar? <br /><br />I also think that once I went into the apartment that was above the Variety, during the time it was a theater. The floors were very crooked.<br /><br />This site makes me remember how much I forget. It's actually all a big blur.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04362859175287085919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-45796738040721086112009-07-16T17:50:46.228-04:002009-07-16T17:50:46.228-04:00The Dugout was an old heavy drinking bar with old ...The Dugout was an old heavy drinking bar with old drinker, down 3 steps and you were in a seedy joint of which the Bowery would have proudMykola Dementiukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02267125930152870083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-21578799206177177572009-07-16T16:42:10.744-04:002009-07-16T16:42:10.744-04:00Taxi Driver shot a lot on 13th street. You can sti...Taxi Driver shot a lot on 13th street. You can still visit the doorway where DeNiro shot Keitel and the building where Jodi Foster "worked" is still there I think.<br /><br />When I lived in NY, the only was I was able to find the above locations was by using the Variety Theatre as a reference point from the film. Sad to see it gone...and replace by utter crap.<br /><br />This site has the info:<br /><br />http://www.markallencam.com/taxidriverthenandnow.htmlRusty Sharpedgehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/38222723@N06/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-84133619073647471742009-07-16T16:32:55.886-04:002009-07-16T16:32:55.886-04:00That bar for years was The Dugout, then became The...That bar for years was The Dugout, then became The Pit Stop, Looking Glass and finally Finnertys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-69191095940650598162009-07-16T16:00:22.666-04:002009-07-16T16:00:22.666-04:00Looking Glass / Finnerty'sLooking Glass / Finnerty'sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com