tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post8330263312980098519..comments2023-08-14T11:44:27.299-04:00Comments on Jeremiah's<br> Vanishing New York: Doyers StreetJeremiah Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-56557079892514994452014-01-26T15:55:52.333-05:002014-01-26T15:55:52.333-05:00chinatown is my favorite place in NY. please keep ...chinatown is my favorite place in NY. please keep reporting. if manhattan chinatown is demolished, we will have to go to brooklyn. as of several yrs ago there were 200,000 illegals living in manhattans chinatown. include the legals, & thats many people in a small space. there are also 2 or 3 other boros w/asians. i dont think the developers can take over that soon. the culture is here to stay. laura r.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-53516943186685010052014-01-25T10:04:22.614-05:002014-01-25T10:04:22.614-05:00I remember walking down the steps in what is now a...I remember walking down the steps in what is now and was Doyer Vietnamese Restaruant. I believe it was then known as Wo Hop. Can someone confirm this? Seems like everyone knows it was always on Mott Street. I knew Wo Hop was on Doyers while Wo Kee on Mott. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-44836613650950027172011-12-28T20:16:43.068-05:002011-12-28T20:16:43.068-05:00before chinatown was chinatown it was something el...before chinatown was chinatown it was something elseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-1215271557240796052011-10-13T09:49:06.573-04:002011-10-13T09:49:06.573-04:00just to piggyback on laura's comment,
see thi...just to piggyback on laura's comment,<br /><br />see this <a href="http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/snakeheads#description" rel="nofollow">documentary</a> about the chinese slave labor in the u.s., specifically chinatown in nyc<br /><br />http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/snakeheads#descriptionesquared™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03535683572170541615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-69257365573461260332011-10-12T17:38:56.922-04:002011-10-12T17:38:56.922-04:00to anon: (aug.8 '08, 2:01pm). the waiters in ...to anon: (aug.8 '08, 2:01pm). the waiters in chinatown are very poor. many of them live in dorms in queens, work 6 days a week, dont speak english, or even a mainstream chinese dialect. they are usually tricked into coming to new york & are literally in captivity once they arrive. the chinese businessmen who bring them over tell them they need to pay pack the $30,000 fee that it costs to relocate. ofcause that cant be paid back. their salaries are taken away & they have noting but the dorm & the food in the resturant. they are stuck. the other waiters live like 6 people in 2 rooms & work like hell untill they can move on to something better. like driving a cab, or opening a resturant w/partners. yes many chinese do sell the counterfeit goods, only the ones on top make the $. yes they also have gold businesses, some on the books, some under the table. & of cause there are the middle class working people & professionals. i know that culture very well, as ive done business w/them. as well as have many chinese friends. do not conclude or judge w/out the knowlege. these people are not trying to over throw the govt, they do not engage in violent crimes, (except rival gangs who fight each other), & most do assimilate later on. they are not trying to take over the american culture. they are not in your face like other "visitors"- & they dont have a huge population on welfare. lower manhattan was where america started. jewish italian irish black polish. oh yes how many hedge fund managers "pay taxes"?? give me a break.lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-43585369631147511712011-10-12T11:36:39.793-04:002011-10-12T11:36:39.793-04:00It's so sad to hear about Doyer's Vietname...It's so sad to hear about Doyer's Vietnamese Restaurant closing, my best friend and I started eating there four years ago, and it became our secret go to, that no one knew about. The food was fast, and it was good. And as college students, the final bill made us happier. I also used to come get my haircuts all the way from New Jersey to Pell Street Salon, and it was always a welcome respite. Sad sad =( But thank you for sharing, great pictures and a wonderful articleThe Onion Chopperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00464863816042527705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-89319120995755871102009-05-07T14:33:00.000-04:002009-05-07T14:33:00.000-04:00Kung Fu video shoot on Doyers St:
http://www.youtu...Kung Fu video shoot on Doyers St:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evnkWfiHNqYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-56372512853920382802009-05-07T13:51:00.000-04:002009-05-07T13:51:00.000-04:00Sorry to say, but the gentrification of Doyers to ...Sorry to say, but the gentrification of Doyers to a hip hang out for non-Chinese "hip" party-goers seems to have began before the opening of Apotheke. I got a text last summer telling me to come to 11 Doyers St for a party (bldg next to Apotheke). First, I had to Google map Doyers St. I knew it sounded familiar (I went to elementary school down the street at PS 124 on Division) but I had no recollection as to the location at the time. When the map on my phone showed me that this short S-shaped street in Chinatown, which I had walked down countless times in my youth, was in fact Doyers, I HAD to check it out! On the approach to 11 Doyers around 1am, it was as I expected...deserted, aside from the familiar site of a few stray downtown hipsters that my NYer friends run with, who were exiting Doyers onto Bowery. I had no idea what to expect in this non-descript 2-story building, and if there weren't a couple people exiting as I arrived, I probably would've been a bit nervous entering it but my curiosity was too strong on a night like this. I went up the filthy narrow staircase to the second floor which opened up into a huge dark room with thumping and disco lights flashing. Looking around, it was usual suspects of downtownites my age and younger, and their hipster friends from God knows where (and why). This place wasnt a bar or a residence as I expected it may be, but what looked like an ageing restaurant with tables running around a center dancefloor. There was no official bar, just a makeshift one in the back serving some kind of spiked juice scooped out of a huge plastic bin and beer from a keg. It was like a mix of a college style party and a 90s rave. There were no red plastic cups left when I arrived, so I grabbed what looked like the cleanest one I could find sitting on a table and got the last of the keg beer. As I drank it, I just stood in awe, wonder and shock that this place even existed. I felt almost special to be at a party on the most unusual street in Manhattan. It was a story to tell. There were no windows to look out to the outside world, the place reeked of cigarettes and weed, there were used cups everywhere, the floor was sticky from booze and everyone was just partying like it was any other place. my further research into the bldg shows that this space is, or was, used for some kind of private dance venue, but it looked as if the owners didnt care about the conditions in this party on this night, as if they were going to tear it down and recreate the space the next day. It was a filthy scene there, like a frat house party. <br /><br />All these hipsters dancing around carefree didnt seem to grasp the unusualness of this kind of party on this kind of street in this kind of neighborhood. It was definitely something unreal to me. Sublime almost. Definitely a unique NYC experience that I will always remember. A party on Doyers Street, who wouldve thought?!SoHo Nativenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-39282910817348656632008-12-17T11:29:00.000-05:002008-12-17T11:29:00.000-05:00I updated my blogpost about Doyers Street:newyorkp...I updated my blogpost about Doyers Street:<BR/><A HREF="http://newyorkpanorama.com/2008/01/28/chinatown-doyers-street/" REL="nofollow">newyorkpanorama.com/2008/01/28/chinatown-doyers-street/</A>Joergen Geerdshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03936131180761622621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-5945719716352212792008-10-07T14:13:00.000-04:002008-10-07T14:13:00.000-04:00I've been going to Ting's since I was little. Eve...I've been going to Ting's since I was little. Every Sunday we'd go to church and then go for dim sum, with a stop at Ting's to get a little treat. My Dad had the same exact routine with his parents in the 1950s (I'm guessing that my straight-laced Italian grandpa didn't know about the opium in the back). I don't mind that the owners of Apotheke appreciate the coolness of Doyers enough to open a bar there, but I hope that they appreciate it enough to want to become part of the neighborhood instead of the harbinger of boutiques and condos. I will be heartbroken if I can't continue my family's Sunday tradition with my future kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-3063997631960364232008-09-12T14:51:00.000-04:002008-09-12T14:51:00.000-04:00People have been slumming in Chinatown since Chuck...People have been slumming in Chinatown since Chuck Connors led tours through opium dens one hundred years ago. When has an established Chinatown in a major city ever been wipred out instantly by a cocktail bar or two?<BR/><BR/>It will see us out; relax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-65502465816507548832008-08-31T12:16:00.000-04:002008-08-31T12:16:00.000-04:00Believe it or not there's been white people living...Believe it or not there's been white people living on Doyers street. I remember when the Post office was a parking lot and can see white people living in the green loft building.<BR/>I don't know if they're still there now, maybe it's eve on doyers street.<BR/>I heard lenoard lopate sp? lived in chinatown and sort of talks bad about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-6752374824884260432008-08-30T13:47:00.000-04:002008-08-30T13:47:00.000-04:00Yunnie dandy and anon. August 29, 2008 4:40 PM are...Yunnie dandy and anon. August 29, 2008 4:40 PM are the same person. He or she (depends on the personality) is a paranoid schizophrenic chinese white wannabe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-8823719014701981572008-08-30T13:07:00.000-04:002008-08-30T13:07:00.000-04:00Another thing - the counterfeit goods, the immigra...Another thing - the counterfeit goods, the immigrants, and the many sub-culture worlds of New York City is what makes..well, MADE..it unique for so long. I will assume this poster is from New Jersey or Long Island, and thinks he is such a "city guy" by going to douchey clubs in the meatpacking with his popped collar.Damaged Goodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11868771796420989290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-6838034203539789142008-08-30T13:01:00.000-04:002008-08-30T13:01:00.000-04:00Why would someone so racist and in need of gentrif...Why would someone so racist and in need of gentrification be even reading this Web site? Why would he/she even live in New York City when they can have everything they need in Akron, OH? I wish cancer upon you.Damaged Goodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11868771796420989290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-30709326329917831592008-08-30T12:06:00.000-04:002008-08-30T12:06:00.000-04:00I looked up 9 Doyers on the Dept of buildings site...I looked up 9 Doyers on the Dept of buildings site.<BR/>I don't see any work permits given for ANY work done. did they do all this work without a permit? you need a building permit to do most renovations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-48117943844366932242008-08-30T00:46:00.000-04:002008-08-30T00:46:00.000-04:00where's the Flying Dragons when we need them?I'm s...where's the Flying Dragons when we need them?<BR/>I'm surprised it's Doyers street.<BR/>I don't think the crowd will mix well with the club next to it.<BR/>thanks for this heads up JM. I'm going to ask some locals about this place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-45426288371723039322008-08-29T16:40:00.000-04:002008-08-29T16:40:00.000-04:00who is this yunnie doodle moron??who is this yunnie doodle moron??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-82645133537007301182008-08-28T21:41:00.000-04:002008-08-28T21:41:00.000-04:00Mwah hah hah hah hah. Can't wait for Chinatown to...Mwah hah hah hah hah. Can't wait for Chinatown to be re-zoned and gentrified. Your blog is like communist China: <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_China" REL="nofollow">censoring the internet</A>. And to the last Anonymous comment, of course you're proud to be born and raised in Chinatown, why wouldn't you be? You just hide behind your race and lick white people's asses. Hey, there's always Flushing. Then again you won't be able to read this, since Mr. Jeremiah Mao Tse Tong will not post this comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-30725676866965816152008-08-28T21:02:00.000-04:002008-08-28T21:02:00.000-04:00yeah, it's a slum alright, but how are you rich a-...yeah, it's a slum alright, but how are you rich a-holes gonna stay rich if you didn't come here for great food at cheap prices.<BR/>yeah, it's filthy alright, it all the rich a-holes who can't handle their liquor and vomit in the streets and pissing on the buildings late at night like don't know what a toilet is for.<BR/>if you don't like Chinatown....then stay away. life is too short, we don't need people to talk down to us, you are where you are because of your ancestors or because of your backstabbing ways......you just have to remember that as long as you are in the front, there are others behind you...what goes around comes around.<BR/><BR/>born and raised in Chinatown and F**king proud of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-47837522474204173582008-08-28T17:55:00.000-04:002008-08-28T17:55:00.000-04:00Chinese only like white people. they treat latinos...Chinese only like white people. they treat latinos and blacks (unless they are with a white person, especially a white blonde female person) criminals. so what goes around comes around, thank you buddha. yes, we can change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-64173060319162307052008-08-28T17:41:00.000-04:002008-08-28T17:41:00.000-04:00David, I guess you're just gonna have to go to Flu...David, I guess you're just gonna have to go to Flushing for your "oriental" massage. Boo-hoo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-65432308586126110492008-08-28T16:26:00.000-04:002008-08-28T16:26:00.000-04:00If this is an example of a yunnie gentrifying C...If <A> this is an example of a yunnie </A> gentrifying Chinatown, please, let 'em. I'd rather have this hottie than a smelly rude chinese nottie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-69275972487563021252008-08-28T15:34:00.000-04:002008-08-28T15:34:00.000-04:00The 2 anonymous anti-chinatown posters have to be ...The 2 anonymous anti-chinatown posters have to be fake. If not, where the fuck do you people come from? It's bizarre to me that people like you would live in a major city to begin with. I have never met anyone in my life who would take such ridiculous,classist, ignorant stances. That anyone would actually even imply that it would be in anyone's interest to see an ethnic enclave eradicated is at worst bigoted and probably totally uncultured and at the very least a complete piece of garbage as a human being. Honestly I almost feel like blogs like this one,Curbed, Brownstoner,etc in a way are more part of the problem than part of the solution because it gives a voice to poisonous rhetoric like this.Larvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14718862644913152012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-56642070631271996292008-08-28T15:00:00.000-04:002008-08-28T15:00:00.000-04:00Ah, Chinatown. One of remaining, great and gritty ...Ah, Chinatown. One of remaining, great and gritty ethnic neighborhoods in Manhattan.<BR/><BR/>It was a great reading what you wrote about Doyers st today. Do you remember a street in Chinatown called "Happy Corner?" My mom used to bring me into the city when I was a kid to buy fireworks, and we went around Chinatown asking old-ladies sitting in folding chairs "Do you know where we can buy fireworks?" And they said go to the store, "Happy Corner." The store was indeed named that, but the street sign also said, "Happy Corner." The operation was great. It was a store that sold baseball caps and other tchotchkes, but if you went to the counter and asked for fireworks they, would refuse you, then you asked again and they looked around suspiciously and finally pulled out a huge magazine catalogue of fireworks. You picked out what you wanted and then they got on a walkie-talkie and a few minutes later someone came up from under the floor with fireworks wrapped up in brown paper. I've been living in the city since 2002 now and I usuallly end up wandering around Chinatown once a year trying to find it, but with no luck. Do you have any clue where it is/was? Anybody?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com