tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post295631070771421303..comments2023-08-14T11:44:27.299-04:00Comments on Jeremiah's<br> Vanishing New York: *Everyday ChatterJeremiah Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11791516443125872364noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-60144358618096277352012-05-02T10:19:32.749-04:002012-05-02T10:19:32.749-04:00Brendan, though it doesn't get much attention,...Brendan, though it doesn't get much attention, I've found that even the frat enclaves in the city have gotten worse these part few years (I live near one; it wasn't even that much of a frat enclave ten years ago). Areas that had a few decent local bars and restaurants, which older locals could (and did) go to, in the mix have been losing them.<br /><br />This isn't as dramatic as the invasion of the frat, suburban, and boutique cultures into neighborhoods that had been completely free of these things, but the same forces that caused one change have been certainly causing the other.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-19227738999569654462012-05-01T17:29:24.824-04:002012-05-01T17:29:24.824-04:00Parts of Murray Hill are harmless, but what people...Parts of Murray Hill are harmless, but what people are talking about is this: http://www.observer.com/2005/07/welcome-to-murray-hell-2/ It has only gotten worse since that article has written.<br /><br />Williamsburg has a few decent music venues going for it, if nothing else.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-34310245782910504522012-05-01T16:59:25.143-04:002012-05-01T16:59:25.143-04:00Murray Hill isn't anywhere near as horrible as...Murray Hill isn't anywhere near as horrible as Williamsburg is. Murray Hill is just a nondescript part of the East side, whereas Williamsburg is the shining example of everything that is wrong with NYC, or has gone wrong in the last dozen years.Caleonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-63983984551341009582012-05-01T10:44:53.551-04:002012-05-01T10:44:53.551-04:00On the Williamsburg link, people thought they were...<i>On the Williamsburg link, people thought they were getting an extension of the East Village, and they wound up with an extension of Murray Hill.</i><br /><br />To be fair, the East Village got Murray Hill-ified first...it's a predictable, sad progression.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-31777553325920681812012-05-01T09:25:06.587-04:002012-05-01T09:25:06.587-04:00The backlash from people in the comments section o...The backlash from people in the comments section of the Observer piece is great! Someone cancelled their paper subscription over it? HA HA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-74510281547997624622012-04-30T23:41:21.403-04:002012-04-30T23:41:21.403-04:00On the Williamsburg link, people thought they were...On the Williamsburg link, people thought they were getting an extension of the East Village, and they wound up with an extension of Murray Hill.<br /><br />On the happy hour link, the Department of Health is denying that is targeting happy hour, which would probably take action by the state legislature anyway. So the one point to take away from this story is that people believed this. But the prohibitionists didn't disappear in 1933, they changed their tactics and are trying to bring it back gradually this time. So for example closing times have been moving forward from 4 AM to 2 AM, not due to any law or public debate, but one bar license at a time. Repeat this in countless small ways. Though this is happening across the country, it seems most annoying somehow in New York.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-683382864156505640.post-7648087275256039572012-04-30T19:49:16.857-04:002012-04-30T19:49:16.857-04:00"ironic, because New York City was the place ..."<i>ironic, because New York City was the place people have historically flocked to live with fewer rules, not more.</i>"<br />I'm sorry Jen, but didn't you also write 10 rules on what New Yorkers shouldn't do anymore? <br /><br />http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/10/10_things_new_yorkers.php<br /><br />I find that ironic.esquared™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03535683572170541615noreply@blogger.com