Thursday, May 28, 2009

Post Pillages East Village

For some time, the New York Post has notoriously been ripping off blogger Miss Heather over at New York Shitty. She writes about neighbors angry at ice-cream truck noise, a day later, the Post is on the scene. She writes about weird graffiti, bam, there's the Post with an "exclusive." In that case, the journalist defended himself saying that because he went to the scene and did his own research, that counts as an exclusive.

Now they're pillaging the East Village blogs. They did it to EV Grieve, calling their story on the Bullet Space squat an "exclusive." And now they're using me.

photo EV Grieve

In today's paper, as Grieve alerted me, they get the "scoop" on the war between the Cooper Square Hotel and its neighbors. While I'm happy to see the beleaguered neighbors getting more press coverage, my blog should be mentioned and credited, especially when it is being directly ripped off.

It's inevitable that stories are inadvertently shared. Bloggers often find themselves covering the same material, often unknowingly. Most I know try their best to give credit when it's obviously due.

The Post writers reference the content of my Notes from the Backside posts without crediting me as their source. They wrote:

"One resident, armed with a megaphone, leaned out his window and greeted a patron who strayed out on the patio after it was closed. When that didn't work, he placed the megaphone next to a stereo speaker and shared a crude comedy skit."

This comes directly from my posts here and here--though they get some of the details completely wrong. Gothamist calls the Post article "a shameless jack of original reporting."

Tell the Post our neighborhoods are already being ripped off and co-opted by big business. We're not going to let them do the same thing to our neighborhood blogs.


Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Greene,

Your recent article on the Cooper Square Hotel reminded of a post on the blog Jeremiah's Vanishing New York. In fact, upon further readings, it seems to be the same story, only written earlier by Jeremiah Moss. This awful hotel in our neighborhood is surely due space both in blogs and in the pages of the Post, especially if its patrons keep behaving as they are. But like many of our stores that are fading, Jeremiah's Vanishing New York is a local institution and needs our support. Please give credit where credit is due. I look forward to seeing the correction in print soon.

Thank you,

Anonymous said...

You should just bait the post. create a faux story have the other bloggers jump on it and watch the morons at the post take the bait.

Jeremiah Moss said...

nice idea!

Bowery Boogie said...

this is a travesty. we will win this fight!

Ken Mac said...

letter writing campaign is certainly in order

Anonymous said...

I agree they should credit you, but if the goal is to stop the assholes at the hotel, the Post or any other paper (except the NYT, with Dowd ripping off a blogger) will do a better job of driving the story, not bc they have better reporting, but bc they are a newspaper with a large circulation. The more people that know about this, the more likely the hotel will get bad PR and the more likely the situation will improve. Look at the big picture. Its not about you being first, the ultimate goal is to stop the noise.

Jeremiah Moss said...

absolutely, like i said in my post, it's great that this hotel issue is getting wider exposure. and i love being part of a system where smaller voices on the street can help push an issue into the public awareness via newspapers and larger blogs.

it should be a mutually interactive experience.

failing to credit a blogger while using almost word for word the content of that blog, however, is unethical and could be illegal, should a legal predecent be sought.

it also speaks to the power imbalance in this city, where those smaller voices--like the tenants behind the hotel--get silenced by louder, more powerful voices.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, if you've got a small community of people who've been ripped off by these guys, just go ahead and come up with some elaborate scheme to "bait" him.

Fucking with people is always a blast.

Marie said...

Baiting the Post is an excellent idea.

You say they think, Who reads blogs, anyway.

But who reads the Post, anyway?


Anonymous said...

You should get the Daily News to write an article about the NY Post's blatant plagiarism.

chris flash said...

You all keep refering to that crappy "news"paper by the wrong name. It's actually the New York ComPost!!

Anonymous said...

The Post should adhere to its journalistic mission statement: finding headless bodies in topless bars.

Anonymous said...

Great to whoever suggested you get this to the Daily News, they would have a field day with this!

Anonymous said...

No offense, but I don't count anything found on to be worth referencing. It's not real journalism.

Paul said...

It is typical of the low life yellow journalism that the Post practices. Their attitude is one of contempt for those who oppose them. What else would one expect from a racist, right wing rag?
They'll Have to find someone else to publish this yellow rag

L'Emmerdeur said...

You should just start stealing their stuff in return, and let them come after you with lawyers.

Copy/paste an article into a post, including pictures, and then post it as your own, with no attribution or links. Target the list of thieves who have done it to you and the other bloggers.

When their lawyers come a-knockin', make a big stink about it to AMNY or the Daily News, and post about it incessantly.

This issue is brewing, and will trigger a major legal precedent soon enough. I can't think of a more appropriate person to enable the creation of blogger IP rights.

Jill said...

I hope there is a lawyer/reader out there who might want to take this on as a class action plagiarism case or some such lawyerly thing. Where is Ron Kuby or Norman Siegel when you need them?

T.J. Moore said...

If you are writing for the accolades and credit, you are not a real writer. You should only be concerned with the quality of your work and whether you get satisfaction from writing it.

I'm sorry, but I find writers who claim "That's my story!" -- whether it's true or not -- to lack class. Writers stealing other writers' ideas has been happening since the creation of the written word. You can't control it. You can only control how you react to it.

Mark said...

This happened with this story, they took about 1/2 the article from another persons blog and even took the pictures(and claimed as own)